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Post by Admin on Jun 5, 2017 2:31:35 GMT
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Post by Admin on Jun 5, 2017 2:42:13 GMT
I apologize for not keeping up with the thoughts about the players for a lot of rounds. A lot of crazy things have happened like the Alex/Donald/Mimi votes. Those were all people that I did not see leaving any time soon in the game, it's crazy! But it leaves us with the Final four- John, Carley, Paula, Stephen. 2 Nerds, 1 Jock and 1 Rebel. So this thread will be decided to my opinion on each of their game and their chances to win. Nothing personal, love everyone as person but now I'll comment as a viewer.
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Post by Admin on Jun 5, 2017 4:06:16 GMT
Carley would be a great winner. I think Carley has dominated the physical aspect of the game. She won challenges when she needed it the most, when she was on the block. She has on 5 competitions thus far which ties Alex for most competition wins this season. She used the POV 3/4 time the POV was used all season. She was the first person to take a shot at the dominating alliance of 6. But is that enough? I think she lacked on her social game, she is a very likable person as it is. However, she felt comfortable in the RiffRaff and did nothing to branch out of it. She was the first to take a shot at the 6, but went for arguably the weakest. There's not many moves that she made other than saving herself. In my opinion, she'd have to be next to Stephen to win at the end. I think she has a nice underdog story and would be a deserving winner.
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Post by Admin on Jun 5, 2017 4:13:15 GMT
John also would be a great winner. Personally, I relate with John's gameplay and I just think his story is wonderful. John started this game great socially, he relied on making social connections for a long time in this game. He was in a great spot which led him to throw most competitions. He was part of the dominating alliance this season. I love John's story because it is how I play at times. Where I'm in the majority and dominating the game and then BOOM- I need to win my way out. John obviously needs to win his way to the final 2 to win because no one is taking him, but is it impossible ? Probably not. All he needs to do is win final 4 HOH or veto and then 2 of the final HOHs. Three competition wins between John and the Final 2. If he makes it, he would have a strong case. He was socially good with most of the cast for a very long time. He threw competitions when he didn't need to win. When it was most important for him (at final 5), he won the veto and saved himself. He was one of the main force in the Alex backdoor plan which was the biggest move of the season. But on the other hand, he also was the reason for the worst move (nominating Donald instead of Paula/Mimi) which made the game possible to turn upside down. I don't think John realizes how much support he has in the jury, if he makes the final 2 I think he'd had 3 votes locked.
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Post by Admin on Jun 5, 2017 4:31:06 GMT
Stephen is probably the least deserving to be in the final 4. As likable as he is as a person, I don't think he was a very good player. I'm sorry Stephen when you see this. I think Stephen had a disadvantage of missing a lot of hours due to work and that's something he couldn't control, understood. However, I think there was other things that he just could've done differently. He had good ideas and thoughts, but he just couldn't win anything to back it up. The one time he won an HOH, his target destroyed everyone else in the veto and the pawn went home. I don't think Stephen has a good chance at winning and if he wins I'd be very disappointed because I think everyone else has played a way better game than he has out of the final 4. Not that he has played a bad game, he was just not able to make his plans work because he 1) couldn't win any competitions. 2) really didn't have any pulls on anyone. The only thing he can have pulling moves is him getting MaryBeth to put Pete which didn't really make any difference because Jake was leaving regardless. I think that if Stephen makes the finals, any votes for him are just votes against the person he is sitting next to.
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Post by Admin on Jun 5, 2017 4:44:35 GMT
I think there's no secret here, Paula has absolutely played the best game this season. She did what Alex couldn't do, play all angles and be in every decision making but not getting voted out. She has played the most consistent game since the very start. She had the social game in the bag, she was strategic and she was physical. Paula was playing this game hard since day 1. There were people that questioned her at times and thought if she was being the mole but there was always someone that would be like "Oh no, Paula is locked with us". One good example is John nominated Donald instead of Paula because he was scared of Donald voting Paula out (which Donald had no intention of that night) but instead Paula voted Donald out. Paula would be a great winner as well. But has she pissed off too many people? I think if she makes the end, all she really needs to do is OWN her game which judging by her last confessional she finally has! Everyone in the jury recognizes that she's played the best game, but would she make final 2? She'd also have to win her way there. I can easily see Paula being voted out fourth or third so it'd be crucial for her to win the F4 HOH/Veto and Final HOH.
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Post by tierra on Jun 5, 2017 23:40:05 GMT
This is my opinion on the final four! I will start off from who I feel is the least deserving to the most deserving of the win.
Stephen - I know that I was pretty hard on Stephen during the round table. I do think that he's a good guy and I love that his sass has started coming out towards the end of the game; however, I don't feel like he is deserving whatsoever to win this game. Although he had a lot of good ideas, he was never able to follow through on them. He was all talk. His social game in my opinion was just awful. When you're not great when it comes to challenges, you need to build relationships with people and try to use those relationships to your advantage. Which unfortunately he never did. And the few relationships he did build, he never tried to influence them to make a move that he wanted. In fact, his own alliance used him and Carley as pawns and never once questioned it. So in conclusion, I feel like Stephen would be the least deserving and I will be disappointed if the jury gives him any votes. I'm sorry Stephen and I hope you don't take any of this personal!
Carley - Carley is a hard one for me. She was the queen challenge wise; every time she needed a win and was in danger, she was able to pull it off and save herself. I respect that so much and in that sense, I think she would be a great winner. Now on the flip side, her social game was horrible. Just like Stephen, she built that alliance with the riff raffs and stopped there. Also like Stephen, she was perfectly fine with her own alliance putting her up as a pawn when she should have been fighting to have players like Mimi and john put up. Although everyone thought Carley was sweet, she never tried to really develop relationships with anyone besides her one alliance and that could cost her in the final 2. If people voted simply on challenge wins, she'd have it in the bag. But is that how this jury will vote? I honestly don't think so, but who knows. Challenge wins are great, but the relationships you build with the people joining jury is just as, if not more, important. I really believe her only shot at winning is if she's sitting next to Stephen.
John - I loved John as a player. He is well known in this community and instead of becoming a target right away, he played a very under the radar game. He developed relationships with everyone and was part of a dominating alliance. He was so safe in this game that he was even able to throw several challenges. This was smart because he didn't have to get any blood on his hands, he didn't have to make enemies, and he wasn't viewed as a challenge threat. This is 100% the game that Alex should have played coming in. But that's why John is here and Alex is sitting in jury. Although I was a tad disappointed at times that john wasn't super exciting and making big moves, he took the exact approach that he needed to to make it this far. Unfortunately for John, he was fooled by Paula and now the riff raffs have majority in the final 4 and all eyes are on him. He will have to win his way to the end. And if he can do that, he deserves it.
Paula - Paula, Paula, Paula! I am very surprised and IMPRESSED with this woman! I did not think she had it in her that very first night! She played both sides almost the entire game and she did it wonderfully. Everyone knew that Paula was a challenge threat but everyone also thought they had Paula on their side. Therefore she was safe almost the entire game. She fooled everyone with that innocent smile and doe eyes and I am here for it! Hell, her own alliance didn't even care when she put them up as pawns! John put Donald up over her because he didn't want Donald to vote Paula out and then she turned right around and voted Donald out! That's how great her social game was. But unfortunately for Paula, when you're playing both sides the whole game, there comes a point when you HAVE to choose a side. She chose the riff raffs and this came as a complete shock to John and Mimi and caused a lot of drama in the game. Although all eyes are on john right now, if he wins the hoh or veto she will be the one walking out the door. She, like john, will have to win her way to the end. I honestly believe that she can do it. If she makes it to the finals, she deserves it a thousand percent. She was the full package - an amazing social player and great at challenges. She just needs to OWN IT. Which I am so glad she's finally doing.
In conclusion, John and Paula are the most deserving of the win in my eyes. I would REALLY love to see them both in final two and battle it out but unfortunately I don't see that happening. So whichever one makes it there, they SHOULD have it in the bag. But man, how crazy would it be if Paula and Alex carried Stephen and Carley all this way just for them to become the final 2.... We will just have to wait and see what happens!
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